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fixte & adgreede...........Cristoforo said:If the driver dosnt knowwhen thehowe to macke teh ‘bowisclear’ the boat needs a new driver
Nothing.The person driving the boat is in control. He/She can deal with it. No yelling allowed. There is no shit, unless you don’t know what is going on.You are reversing out of a marina berth. Once your bow clears the boat next to you, you need to swing the stern hard to right as you are facing/looking back. (If you were looking normally ahead the bow swinging to strbrd) What would be the instruction to give to the helmsman. Put the wheel hard to port or strbrd. or anything else? Is it the direction you are going takes precedence regardless of where the bow and stern is, or the rudder angle you want if you were going forward?
True, hand signals are also effective.... Inoffensive, sometimes not.....If you are yelling at all, you've already lost.
Hand signals are inoffensive. Headset communicators can work well.
They guy with the con on a ship gives engine and rudder angle orders to the helmsman. Ie, dead slow ahead 20 degrees right rudder. In the case of the boat, the guy on the helm usually "has the con." Lookouts on a ship or large yacht provide distance and closing rate at the bow and stern usually. Ie, something like, "port stern 10 feet off closing slowly". On a boat with the guy at the helm having the con usually at the stern, it can help to have a guy at the bow calling such info. But the guy at the bow does not give helm or engine orders. That's the guy who has the con. The con also calls line orders such as port bow line off or on or some such.There must be a technically correct answer to that. What if you are the captain of a large ship (or worse a navy vessel) reversing into a tight channel or what. What orders would you give to the helmsman? ''I want to park my ass there first and then get the hell out of here... do what ever is necessary'' might not be good enough.
This is really the essence and the default, and what Naptime says:In the case of the boat, the guy on the helm usually "has the con."
The helmsman may have the conn, but is always subject to the skipper's orders, even if the skipper is on the bow making sure the bow is really clear.Since we are leaving a pier at our leisure, presumably not being chased by people with guns, I would talk through the planned maneuver beforehand with the steering person.
I think this is precisely why port and starboard exist... But yeah, dude on the bow should be telling the helm which way he needs to turn.This isn’t rocket science. Port is still port, starboard is still starboard. Do you unbolt your running lights and flip flop them when you back up?
The whole point of the words starboard and portside is that they are attached to a side of the boat.You are reversing out of a marina berth. Once your bow clears the boat next to you, you need to swing the stern hard to right as you are facing/looking back. (If you were looking normally ahead the bow swinging to strbrd) What would be the instruction to give to the helmsman. Put the wheel hard to port or strbrd. or anything else? Is it the direction you are going takes precedence regardless of where the bow and stern is, or the rudder angle you want if you were going forward?