What's at stake with NBR Misconduct rule 69?

[shubrook]

Would you go to this? Are there any consequences outside of the NBR race?

Dear Mr. Shubrook,

NOTIFICATION OF ACTION UNDER RULE 69.2 I am writing to inform you that the Protest Committee of this event has received a report under rule 69.2 alleging that you have broken rule 69.1(a) by committing Misconduct.

The report alleges that: The incident occurred on June 16, 2022 at about 0930 hours, while you were in line for customs and immigration to Bermuda for the Newport to Bermuda Race.

Person A, Commodore of Royal Bermuda Yacht Club, and Person B, Chairman of the Bermuda Race Organizing Committee approached you and requested that you wear a mask. You flipped a table and knocked down signage. Bermuda Immigration subsequently informed Person B that you were not welcome to travel to Bermuda.

Your skipper Captain Skipper of Awesome Boat was informed that he would be required to remove you from his crew list for the race. Please see attachments...

...The Protest Committee has decided to conduct a hearing under rule 69.2 to determine if these allegations are true, and if so, to decide what action to take. You are required to attend a hearing on Tuesday June 28, 2022 at 1700 hours Eastern Daylight Time. The hearing will be conducted as a videoconference through Zoom at this link:

 

[Brass]

Short answer: No.

Under the current rule 69, penalisation by a protest committee is limited to the race or series connected to the misconduct.

Any further bans or action are done by the National body under its disciplinary by laws, not the RRS.

Rule 69.2
...
(h) When the protest committee decides that a competitor or
boat owner has broken rule 69.1(a), it may take one or
more of the following actions
(1) issue a warning;
(2) change their boat’s score in one or more races,
including disqualification(s) that may or may not be
excluded from her series score;
(3) exclude the person from the event or venue or
remove any privileges or benefits; and
(4) take any other action within its jurisdiction as
provided by the rules.

 

[nolatom]

As a guess---Probably a private matter rather than a misdemeanor or governmental or law-enforcement one. Unless it was at a customs or immigration station.

But what the fuck are you doing flipping tables and knocking down signage, if indeed that's what you did? You're a guest. Behave like one.

 

[crashtestdummy]

Anyone know what boat he was from? I was in back of line when it happened and watched him knock over anything in his oath!

 

[EastCoastHustle]

Anyone know what boat he was from? I was in back of line when it happened and watched him knock over anything in his oath!

Holy crap this actual happened?

 

[Livia]

Well in Australia, you get 18 months for a Hitler parody meme so guess you are banned for life.

 

[JimC]

Short answer: No.

Under the current rule 69, penalisation by a protest committee is limited to the race or series connected to the misconduct.

While that's true, isn't the PC required to report any penalty exceeding a single DNE to the National Authority, who do have the authority to impose much wider penalties? So aren't the potential consequences very much wider than the single event?

 

[Brass]

While that's true, isn't the PC required to report any penalty exceeding a single DNE to the National Authority, who do have the authority to impose much wider penalties? So aren't the potential consequences very much wider than the single event?

Yes, but any further action isn't a rule 69 matter.

 

[shubrook]

Short answer: No.

Under the current rule 69, penalisation by a protest committee is limited to the race or series connected to the misconduct.

While that's true, isn't the PC required to report any penalty exceeding a single DNE to the National Authority, who do have the authority to impose much wider penalties? So aren't the potential consequences very much wider than the single event?

These people are pretty horrible. I don't think they will let this go. If there's a chance it is going to escalate further I guess I have to deal with them now.

 

[JimC]

Wise to read this I think.
https://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/2017WorldSailingMisconductGuidance-[22804].pdf

 

[vtsail]

Man Shubrook, multiple people from my boat reported back on your behavior. You should absolutely attend that hearing with your tail firmly tucked between your legs and the words:" I am sorry" firmly planted on your lips. Absolutely NO excuse for your actions.

 

[solosailor]

Certainly seems like your mask tirade might have paid off..... for the rest of us.

 

[10thTonner]

Don’t want to excuse bad behaviour, but… If we pulled a 69 on everyone who behaved like an arsehole at some time, this sport would be even more dying than it already is.

 

[Zonker]

No, the logical thing is to blow off the hearing.

 

[basketcase]

Its totally not that important. Ive skipped out on a few myself. Don't lose a moment's sleep.

 

[Bump-n-Grind]

Don’t want to excuse bad behaviour, but… If we pulled a 69 on everyone who behaved like an arsehole at some time, this sport would be even more dying than it already is.

maybe, or maybe it's privileged assholes that pull this shit that drive people away... just food for thought.

 

[Diarmuid]

That stupid table won't be stealing your precious freedoms anymore. I'm sure everyone was impressed by your mature and considerate behavior.

 

[climenuts]

Do you think you're Jesus or something? Why didn't you just walk to Bermuda?

 

[Grande Mastere Dreade]

well if it were me I'd

attend the meeting...
proclaim myself as a fucktard of on a massive level
i was drunk beyond sensibility
and
asked to be flogged by the penises of the Commodore of Royal Bermuda Yacht Club and Chairman of the Bermuda Race Organizing Committee as part of my repentance..

and I would look deeply into anger management classes as to find the causes to my actions.. if that was done in any Arab nation, i would assume a flogging and a long time spent in isolation in a dingy hole would result.. you were lucky it was in a british sovereignty where buggering cabin boys is acceptable..

 

[kent_island_sailor]

Who is getting protested, the boat or the moron?
The moron shouldn't be allowed near a racing boat for a long time, but the rest of the crew likely had no part of this.