What's in your arsenal??

Liquid

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My arsenal consists of a Winchester model 12 in 12 gauge, a Marlin 336 in 30.30, and a Browning High Power 9mm. So I don't piss on gun owners. Just idiots who think that guns are the most important thing in their pathetic lives, and believe that what the NRA says is inscribed on the tablets with the ten commandments. Common sense should prevail.
Welcome aboard the loser train - loser!

Round the other parts of SA just owning a gun means you:

...have pathetic life. (as you already pointed out!)
...are a gun fondler and are obsessed.
...have a small penis, if you have one at all.
...are not a real man.
...can only feel masculine with a gun.
...are a pathetic, paranoid, less than a man with mental health problems.
 

tybee

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Welcome aboard the loser train - loser!

Round the other parts of SA just owning a gun means you:

...have pathetic life. (as you already pointed out!)
...are a gun fondler and are obsessed.
...have a small penis, if you have one at all.
...are not a real man.
...can only feel masculine with a gun.
...are a pathetic, paranoid, less than a man with mental health problems.
sounds about right. :cool:
 

warbird

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Yes the handwriting was on the wall, either go OCS and get a commission, cross rate or get out. - so I got out - even though I was one of two Seabees out of 187 who qualified for OCS in 1974, and engineering school at either Washington State or Oregon State - since Seabees was Civil Engineer Corps, one could only get a degree in Civil Engineering, but wanted a degree in Mechanical or Structural Engineering, turned down a full boat scholership. Even in the Seabees beyond '76, rank advancement beyond E5 ground to a halt in all the Seabee rates. I had friends who stayed in for 24-36 years, who crossrated to EOD, because that was the only way for them to advance in rank. A few who stayed in the Seabees for 20 it took their whole career to advance to E6 or E7, when a normal open rate allowed one to advance to E6 or E7 in 7 to 11 years.
4 year E5 though I did mail-in (on-line today) courses for the Marine Corps Institute to up my promotion points (my range scores were no help), and my PT scores were in the average range. I was not so concerned about future advancement, I had a baby on the way, we both had tech skills (late1980) and I wasn't going to commit to an unknown (geographical) future with a baby coming.
 

warbird

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d'ranger

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Thanks to no mods warturd is free to share his assholiness daily. There is no bottom to his hatred of Americans.
 

boomer

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Some paint this with a fairly broad brush. Common sense should always prevail. No level of violence is acceptable. Far more unites us then divides us..

For many gun owners here, sailing, sailboat racing, wind surfing, kite boarding, kite foiling, wind foiling, wife, children and family, gardening, home improvement or remodeling, climbing, skiing, kayaking, drawing, painting, playing an instrument or being multi-instrumental are paramount passions they hold far higher then guns.

My Dad's father my Grandfather introduced me to and bought my subscription to the NRA for years. The NRA inception dates back almost to the Civil War and two former Union officers, who had despaired over their wartime recruits' poor shooting skills.

Many are surprised to learn that the NRA of past generations worked with the federal government to limit the traffic in guns - for example, where ex-convicts or mental patients were involved.

When handguns became the focus, the NRA spawned a subgroup devoted to them and supported state-level permit requirements for concealed weapons.

In the Prohibition Era, the conversation changed again with the urban use of shotguns and the fully automatic Thompson gun.

The NRA worked with Congress and the White House on those acts and supported their enforcement. The same was true when these restrictions were extended and tightened following the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, and again by a 1968 gun bill responding to the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Sen. Robert Kennedy.

But in the late 1960s, there was also widespread concern about rising crime rates and the deadly riots that flared in the nation's major cities. Citizens were concerned about their safety and turned to gun purchases for their personal protection. And many NRA members wanted their organization to get out in front of that.

The NRA started to go off the rails when - The hard-liners took over the NRA after an NRA member was killed by federal agents.

In 1971, agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms killed an NRA member who was hiding a large number of illegal weapons. This, too, stirred a restive reaction within the NRA rank and file. To address it, the NRA's top managers created the group's first lobbying organ, the Institute for Legislative Action, in 1975.

The ILA was headed by a Texas lawyer named Harlon Carter, an immigration hawk who had headed of the Border Patrol in the 1950s.

"You don't stop crime by attacking guns," he said. "You stop crime by stopping criminals."

Hard-charging and uncompromising, Carter was soon at odds with the Old Guard of the parent NRA, who downsized his ILA staff. He fought back by organizing an uprising at the annual NRA convention in 1977 and forcing the power struggle to burst into the open.

In the end, Carter won, ascending to NRA's de facto leadership as its executive vice president. He installed another hard-liner, Neal Knox, to head the ILA. The new marching orders were to oppose all forms of gun control across the board and lobby aggressively for gun owners' rights in Congress and the legislatures.

It was right at this time, when I declined to stay involved in the NRA. Many of my gun toting friends are still NRA members, because many gun clubs and ranges require an NRA membership. Some gun ranges that require NRA membership have an open day of the week, often on Wednesday or Thursday, when non NRA members such as myself and other retired vets are allowed to shoot.

The NRA's decline really began in 1991 with Wayne LaPierre, he has served as EVP and chief executive of the NRA, the largest gun rights advocacy and firearms safety training/marksmanship organization in the United States. What first set me off with LaPierre was when I read, LaPierre first received a student deferment, then a medical deferment (the cause of which is still publicly unknown) and therefore was not drafted into military service during the Vietnam War.

In 1995 in the aftermath of Wacco and Ruby Ridge, LaPierre wrote a fundraising letter describing federal agents as "jack-booted government thugs" who wear "Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms to attack law-abiding citizens." Former president George H.W. Bush was so outraged by the letter that he resigned his NRA life membership.

Owning fully automatic firearms are legal in some states, and unregulated in other states, as I recall at least 20 states fully automatic firearms are allowed. Though shooting and owning a fully automatic weapon, is enough to compel some to move to states that allow them. It's not enough to compel me to move or own a fully automatic weapon.

Though burglaries were down overall, armed break ins are increasing across the nation, and increased considerably during the pandemic, especially in rural areas. You’d expect that New York and California might have more burglaries per capita, but they’re actually near the bottom of the list, but they have more common sense safe gun laws. In my rural country in Washington State, armed rural break ins went way up.

Though I sold some of my automatic weapons, including three Colt 1911s and put all my guns away 12+ years ago after I retired. Recently last year due to the increase in break ins, I got out my guns and reloading equipment, cleaned and serviced them. I even bought automatic rifles, bought some PCCs, and several more automatic pistols for myself and my wife.

My wife has shot since she was a kid. She never put her guns away, guns to her, are a tool, like her garden implements, never stopped shooting, mainly because we do live rural. She bought excess ammunition, before the anticipated shortage before the last Presidential election, which lasted almost to the summer following the last election.

I shot for the first time in 12+years since retiring in 2011, last summer, just to ensure I haven't lost my skills. I'm still on target with both hands, at 10, 15, 20 and 25 yards and, with a rifle can still cover a five shot group at a hundred yards with a nickle on a OK day, a dime on a good day, and a quarter on a bad day. It's like riding a bike or windsurfing, and for those who are experienced marksmen, it comes back easily.

When I quit shooting 12+ years ago, I figured my shooting days were over. However I've had to change my stance. Cities average somewhere between two minutes, 30 seconds and six minutes, 24 seconds response time. But the county’s times are much higher, between six minutes, 59 seconds and 10 minutes and 49 seconds, however in North Kitsap county depended on how busy they are, response times can be up to half an hour and up to an hour or more, if they're already at a response. Three armed break within 1-3 miles, prompted me to change my stance, and to familiarize myself with my weapons, including handling and dry firing my automatic pistols in the evening, so I'm always familiar with my weapon. Hopefully I'll never have to use a weapon in self defense - ever!

During some of the riots a few years ago, some friends were saying, they felt they should go to the cities in support of the BLM movement. My response, just stay home, because increasing the size of the mob, won't do any good, and those cops are scared too, they don't want to deal with bigger mobs. As if on cue, some Seattle police started wearing, "I'm scared too" patches

If a Civil War happens, and it was more possible a couple years ago, then now - stay home, don't go out and become a statistic, because those who do, won't stand a chance without secure communications and negligible training. The A-10s with their 3900 rounds a minute, and HH-60 Pave Hawk two mini-guns and two 50 cal will mow insurgents down like nobodies business. Then they send in ground forces for cleanup operations, against those old farts, who didn't have heart attacks running for their lives. However civil war won't between the north and south, or Democrat against Republican, it'll happen in small groups of whites against non-whites, by those who once had power or status, and are losing that power or status. It'll start as a cyber war as the insurrection did, then grow from there to acts of domestic terrorism, and finally to small groups of armed insurrectionists who think having a gun in hand will somehow be enough - but they won't stand a chance against airborne mini-guns, nor trained and well organized professional ground troops with secure communications. Those who do survive, will be hunted down in every way - then they'll be prosecuted as the insurrectionists are now - with some facing incarceration and leaders facing the death penalty.





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boomer

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Been reading to much untruthful NRA literature. Looking at that in face value it's contentious, as well as untrue and false on so many levels, on top of that the government isn't taking your guns. It would be politcal suicide for either party to take your guns. Democrats actually expanded gun rights, allowing guns on subways and on Amtrak, as well as allowing guns in National Parks.

Guns, Lies, Fear - Exposing the NRA’s Messaging Playbook The National Rifle Association uses messaging strategies employed by dictators and demagogues to advance its gun rights narrative within the United States.





 
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boomer

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^^^Makes life easier for all of us, especially my wife. Our last two Berettas includes a loader with the guns, as well as cleaning rod, and three grip backstraps for various sized hands.
 

Pertinacious Tom

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Our grandson came over yesterday and we did a bit of plinking with the battlefield .22's.

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We had already used the repair patches to cover up some holes. The top left one is what happened when I observed that the kid was exploding cans too easily and told him to hit only red. This was about 30 yards.

The holes mostly in the top half of the next target are from the same distance with my new gun. Still getting used to it and it took a few magazines from closer range to even start hitting paper.
 

warbird

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There _is_ humor.

, take a buddy and let him go through the entire Ritual of loading a black powder Hawkins for the first time.

He aims and fires.

, and we both giggle about having to wait for the cloud of smoke to blow away before we can see the target again.
I gave my son a Webley .455 1907 or so. He does his own light loads using black powder to keep pressures down. He finds it amusing when that cloud of smoke rolls down the pistol range.
 

veni vidi vici

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When I was in, some came out of boot camp as E-2s so that cuts a year.
I guess I must have come out of basic as a E-2 , never occurred to me before this moment. I know that I came out of AIT as E-3 , I really wanted that bump in pay and my AIT , 91A in those days the Army in its typical wisdom has changed the MOS numbers to different skills??? , I had to score in the top 10% in my AIT class to get the bump .
Lol .. when I look at my Social Security earnings history I made $3,100 for my last year in the Army and that included 4 months of E-5, jump and combat pay, I saved every penny of my military pay and sadly never bought any of the photos that they sell in the various training programs.
 

veni vidi vici

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Or put a clamp on the MSM, which has been screaming "hey, trans people, those awful Christians are out to get you, we have to stop them!!!!"

...but, nah, the war-cries of the left probably didn't have anything to do with inciting a trans person to go shoot up a Christian school. Nothing to see here, move along.
Yeah!
Vengeance
 



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