tillerman
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John Lennon and Paul McCartney? They have been here, there and everywhere.
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dgibbsmi
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Fat boys in the Finn made me lol
dogwatch
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Songwriters, I was asking for authors. So you don't want to play. Up to you.
Since you have found the original photograph, are you planning to tell us the location or club?
tillerman
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Sorry. I couldn't find two authors (defined as people who write books) associated with a famous building near where I think this place is. But I did come across a hotel where the Beatles stayed so I guessed them. Not about not wanting to play. I spent most of the morning searching for authors and my wife helped. This is a frustratingly good puzzle! Maybe I am in the totally wrong place. Hope someone else can get it.
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
You have the correct hotel. Beatles are however the wrong era for the authors I had in mind. The sailing club we are looking for has a unique local class, which evidently has not impressed you. There is a connection between the location of the hotel and the sailing club. Whoever said it is a large estuary, my comment on tide was also a bit of a clue.
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tillerman
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Now I'm really confused. The Beatles did play at somewhere close to the place I'm thinking of three times in the 60s. How can that be the wrong era? Was the target club founded more recently than that? Or had it been closed down by then?
dgibbsmi
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Good heavens...I, too have spent an hour down the rabbit hole.
Bantham Sailing Club - technically part of Kingsbridge and located on the Avon river.
But the Regatta goes around Burgh Island at Bigbury-on-the-sea.
(hence the need for high tide)
The boat class was the most difficult...because it turns out to be local
Bantham C-class
woodenships.co.uk
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And the Burgh Island Hotel was a real hotspot back in the day...apparently, Churchill,
Agatha Christie lived there for a while, and Noel Coward had an extended stay...in addition to visits by various royalty and the Beatles
www.greatbritishlife.co.uk
www.burghisland.com
Looks like a beautiful Art Deco place
Bantham Sailing Club - technically part of Kingsbridge and located on the Avon river.
But the Regatta goes around Burgh Island at Bigbury-on-the-sea.
(hence the need for high tide)
The boat class was the most difficult...because it turns out to be local
Bantham C-class
Bantham C-Class sailing dinghy. For Sale | Wooden Ships Yacht Brokers
Bantham C-Class sailing dinghy. for sale from Wooden Ships yacht brokers. We have a wide range of classic wooden boats for sale.
woodenships.co.uk
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And the Burgh Island Hotel was a real hotspot back in the day...apparently, Churchill,
Agatha Christie lived there for a while, and Noel Coward had an extended stay...in addition to visits by various royalty and the Beatles
Meet the owner of ‘the best hotel west of the Ritz’
Burgh Island Hotel inspired Agatha Christie and has hosted everyone from The Beatles to Winston Churchill
www.greatbritishlife.co.uk
Discover The Unique History Of Burgh Island | Burgh Island
Burgh Island's glittering history began in 1890 with the building of a prefabricated wooden house. Click here to find out more today.
www.burghisland.com
Looks like a beautiful Art Deco place
dgibbsmi
Member
By the way, how many Rivers Avon are there in the UK? I followed the one all the way up from Bantham, and never got to Stratford...which is apparently on an entirely different Avon
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Ah. Avon is a Celtic-derived word for river. So River Avon kind of means River River. Yes there are quite a few of them.
dgibbsmi
Member
Another aside, prompted by looking for Toppers and finding the Bantham Sailing Club and Bantham Community Sailing.
In this picture from the site, why is the Laser the only boat on its side? (Those of us who've sailed them know)
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbi...HRWWHefJm5HrSxr6_rQPeNxtIZZyjyb7I&__tn__=EH-R
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbi...HRWWHefJm5HrSxr6_rQPeNxtIZZyjyb7I&__tn__=EH-R
In this picture from the site, why is the Laser the only boat on its side? (Those of us who've sailed them know)
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbi...HRWWHefJm5HrSxr6_rQPeNxtIZZyjyb7I&__tn__=EH-R
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbi...HRWWHefJm5HrSxr6_rQPeNxtIZZyjyb7I&__tn__=EH-R
tillerman
Super Anarchist
Well done @dgibbsmi . I take my hat off to you.Good heavens...I, too have spent an hour down the rabbit hole.
Bantham Sailing Club - technically part of Kingsbridge and located on the Avon river.
But the Regatta goes around Burgh Island at Bigbury-on-the-sea.
(hence the need for high tide)
The boat class was the most difficult...because it turns out to be local
Bantham C-class
Bantham C-Class sailing dinghy. For Sale | Wooden Ships Yacht Brokers
Bantham C-Class sailing dinghy. for sale from Wooden Ships yacht brokers. We have a wide range of classic wooden boats for sale.
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And the Burgh Island Hotel was a real hotspot back in the day...apparently, Churchill,
Agatha Christie lived there for a while, and Noel Coward had an extended stay...in addition to visits by various royalty and the Beatles
Meet the owner of ‘the best hotel west of the Ritz’
Burgh Island Hotel inspired Agatha Christie and has hosted everyone from The Beatles to Winston Churchill
Discover The Unique History Of Burgh Island | Burgh Island
Burgh Island's glittering history began in 1890 with the building of a prefabricated wooden house. Click here to find out more today.
Looks like a beautiful Art Deco place
Great puzzle @dogwatch !
dgibbsmi
Member
btw: Noel Coward was more of a playwright than author...but I think i counts?
(And Sir Winston Churchill actually wrote a novel and several short stories...who knew?)
(And Sir Winston Churchill actually wrote a novel and several short stories...who knew?)
dgibbsmi
Member
Here is the picture I would have liked to post next as a puzzle...but it is completely searchable.
Apparently Bantham isn't the only place that developed a local class...Devonshire seems rife with them:
Apparently Bantham isn't the only place that developed a local class...Devonshire seems rife with them:
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Mrs Dogwatch gave her son and daughter-in-law a stay there early in their marriage. She's also stayed there on a team-building thing. I've walked on Burgh Island many times but not been in the hotel. The island is visible top-right in the photo I posted.Good heavens...I, too have spent an hour down the rabbit hole.
Bantham Sailing Club - technically part of Kingsbridge and located on the Avon river.
But the Regatta goes around Burgh Island at Bigbury-on-the-sea.
(hence the need for high tide)
The boat class was the most difficult...because it turns out to be local
Bantham C-class
Bantham C-Class sailing dinghy. For Sale | Wooden Ships Yacht Brokers
Bantham C-Class sailing dinghy. for sale from Wooden Ships yacht brokers. We have a wide range of classic wooden boats for sale.
- - - -
And the Burgh Island Hotel was a real hotspot back in the day...apparently, Churchill,
Agatha Christie lived there for a while, and Noel Coward had an extended stay...in addition to visits by various royalty and the Beatles
Meet the owner of ‘the best hotel west of the Ritz’
Burgh Island Hotel inspired Agatha Christie and has hosted everyone from The Beatles to Winston Churchill
Discover The Unique History Of Burgh Island | Burgh Island
Burgh Island's glittering history began in 1890 with the building of a prefabricated wooden house. Click here to find out more today.
Looks like a beautiful Art Deco place
The estuary where you see racing reduces to maybe 20 yards wide from half-tide. That then leaves a huge and beautiful beach, which is a surf-spot and good for wind- and kite-surfers, who launch from the Bigbury (hotel) side to reach into the surf zone. The beach is flat with hollows, the tidal range is large and it disappears really fast. Mrs Dogwatch once got rather wet rescuing one of our dogs who marooned himself on a what was suddenly a little island. He was too much of a wuss to jump off and swim ashore. I am afraid I stayed dry, my logic being that he'd have to jump eventually.
We've been going to that part of the world for 30 years. We keep talking about moving there, one day we may surprise ourselves and do it.
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Right, that is Salcombe, some 10 miles east. There is a large Merlin Rocket regatta there each summer, which we did for quite a few years. Those boats are Salcombe Yawls, which are actually faster without mizzen but that's isn't allowed.
You can walk to the top of the ridge you see climbing steeply top right ("Sharp Tor") which gives a fantastic view of the estuary. Recommended.
Merlins on the start line. You race morning or afternoon. Salcombe YC is behind and if you were on the morning shift, you can stand in front of the club, pint in hand and watch the action below. The original and never-bettered "stadium sailing".
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dgibbsmi
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ok...think I have one:
Where in the world?
Where in the world?
dogwatch
Super Anarchist
Well, at the end of the first night of a play, the audience shouts "Author! Author!" and he or she emerges to bow. At least, they hope they audience does so.
Thank you guys, after a shitty response to a well-meant post on SA yesterday, this has cheered me up.
tillerman
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dgibbsmi
Member
Got it in one.
I picked it because I found another "local" boat in my search for the Bantham.
Turns out the Seabird Half-Rater is the oldest one-design class still raced in Britain.
It was commissioned by WLYC in 1898
en.wikipedia.org
@tillerman you are up!
I picked it because I found another "local" boat in my search for the Bantham.
Turns out the Seabird Half-Rater is the oldest one-design class still raced in Britain.
It was commissioned by WLYC in 1898
Seabird Half Rater - Wikipedia
@tillerman you are up!
dgibbsmi
Member
Aside: The Water Wag predates the Seabird Half-Rater by 12 years, going back to 1886.
These are still raced in the Dublin area.
www.woodenboat.com
These are still raced in the Dublin area.
Ireland’s Water Wag
Ireland’s Water Wag–class dinghy pioneered the concept of one-design racing in 1887, and remains popular today. The Water Wag class began as a double-ended, or “Scotch-sterned” boat; by 1898, holes in the class rules led to the design of a transom-sterned replacement.
