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I have no idea who Mikey is. I don't know you at all.
I dont live in Colorado. You've been around Wacko Jacko for too long and you are seeing ghosts under the bed!
Why is it getting better? US / world
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I dont live in Colorado. You've been around Wacko Jacko for too long and you are seeing ghosts under the bed!
TheDragon
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Still lots of countries in South America and South Asia struggling mightily. The UK has shown spectacular success, even had a day with no covid deaths this week, largely due to their accelerated roll out of vaccination including deferring the second dose for three months to get most of the population partially vaccinated as quickly as possible. The US not quite so good as we did not take that approach, plus we have lots of covidiots who will not get vaccinated and prefer to get natural immunity.
I don't think we had vaccine lack that slowed us, we had injection appointment slot lack, at least here. They never used all the vaccine.
The US never had to defer shots for supply reasons.
Getting people to come back is already problematic, waiting longer for shot 2 would not have been good.
Other countries may have had to ration. We did not.
The US never had to defer shots for supply reasons.
Getting people to come back is already problematic, waiting longer for shot 2 would not have been good.
Other countries may have had to ration. We did not.
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Here's a great chart, plotted by states and the stringency of their lockdowns.
Data from HealthData.gov
Data from HealthData.gov
Matagi
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Great. Another DIY scientistician. As if we didn't have enough of these cases already.
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Rain Man
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Canada closing in on the US - as of today, Canada at 43.4%, and USA stuck at 46.4 where it has been for several days give or take a few tenths of a percent. Looks like Canada will pass the US on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Why has the US population not adopted vaccination? Are there really that many anti-vaxxers?
Why has the US population not adopted vaccination? Are there really that many anti-vaxxers?
BlatantEcho
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I'll answer:
1) The CDC has lost most of its credibility as a science based, non-political agency.
2) Everyone got sold up the river by their governments, with witch hunt style lockdowns, that did nothing.
3) The media has overplayed their hand, spreading fear for a year.
4) Reality was the IFR of the virus is lower than the flu for people under Age 70.
5) People who followed the science (lockdowns don't work, masks do nothing), - got shouted down.
6) Lockdown/maskers made this political, and ignored any science.
7) 'two weeks to flatten the curve' turned into 14 months.
So, why would anyone get a vaccine who is under 70?
Seriously, what's a reason?
Steam Flyer
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Seriously?
Because the two options are- get the vaccine, or get the disease.
Vaccine: headache, kinda sick feeling for a day or so... usually a few hours only
Disease: Possible death, likely long-term health defects including heart/lung/liver damage and infertility, passing the disease to the rest of your household with all the above effects.
Yeah,d not an easy choice. I can see why you're hung up on it
Oh and BTW thanks for posting another graph that proves the opposite of what you think it does. Check the percent difference at peak & trough of your two trend lines
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You get vaccinated to protect society
the greater the viral load circulating in society , the greater the chance for a mutation to develope that sets the whole vaccination program back and shuts down society once again
don’t be a dam fool
spankoka
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It certainly seems better here in BC. The overdose problem has killed more people in the same time period than Covid-19 ever did.
Steam Flyer
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Too late, he's already a damn fool... worse, deliberately telling lies to inflict harm on others.
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Steam Flyer
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Sums it up right there.
Mikey: "You're wrong! I'm smarter than you!" no matter what the original statement is
The truth is that any person getting vaccinated may have a wide variety of reasons, but it protects them -and- it helps protect everyone around them (ie society).
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No it doesn't protect everyone around them. The point is it protects them 8f they choose to be protected.
Pushing the societal good by guilt and coercion shouldn't be an option to encourage individuals to get vaccinated.
The focus should be on encouraging vulnerable individuals to get vaccinated for their own benefit.
So Joe's been telling folks to vax up by the end of June. That's because we're giving away 75% of what Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J is left, plus all the Astra Zenica. The delay with Astra Zenica is safety inspection.
Now, as you scoff, bear in mind that the US governmen AZ was made by Emergent in Baltimore, that has SEVERE production problems, including mixing up AZ and J&J ingredients. Problems there went on for a while. We did not use the J&J made there during that time. I imagine they are sampling the AZ. Whatever crap people give Ugly Plague America, imagine what you'd say if we shipped defective vaccine to poor countries. Yeah.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-announces-international-covid-vaccine-sharing-plan-cc4630f1d45b379c573c55a2042026e0?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=ap_politics
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/06/03/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-global-vaccine-distribution/
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/02/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/03/31/vaccine-johnson-johnson-emergent/
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/at-request-fda-emergent-s-troubled-baltimore-plant-suspends-j-j-vaccine-production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/emergent-vaccine-jj-baltimore-plant/2021/04/03/25f7ade4-94e2-11eb-9668-89be11273c09_story.html
Now, as you scoff, bear in mind that the US governmen AZ was made by Emergent in Baltimore, that has SEVERE production problems, including mixing up AZ and J&J ingredients. Problems there went on for a while. We did not use the J&J made there during that time. I imagine they are sampling the AZ. Whatever crap people give Ugly Plague America, imagine what you'd say if we shipped defective vaccine to poor countries. Yeah.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-announces-international-covid-vaccine-sharing-plan-cc4630f1d45b379c573c55a2042026e0?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=ap_politics
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/06/03/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-global-vaccine-distribution/
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/02/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/03/31/vaccine-johnson-johnson-emergent/
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/at-request-fda-emergent-s-troubled-baltimore-plant-suspends-j-j-vaccine-production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/emergent-vaccine-jj-baltimore-plant/2021/04/03/25f7ade4-94e2-11eb-9668-89be11273c09_story.html
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Steam Flyer
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Really? Vaccinated people are not far less likely than the unvaccinated to spread pathogens?
You're now claiming that there is no such thing as herd immunity?
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