Why is it getting better? US / world

[NeedAClew]

Hopefully "FDA Approval" will get some more vaccinated because "they didn't want to be guinea pigs" before but as the article points out, the additional time isn't going to reveal breaking news and waiting is risky if you aren't in your basement. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/full-fda-approval-drive-covid-19-vaccinations-experts/story?id=78048166

 

[NeedAClew]

Another half billion doses of US made Pfizer for Africa, Asia and South America.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/politics/joe-biden-vaccine-us-leadership/index.html

 

[ShortForBob]

Another half billion doses of US made Pfizer for Africa, Asia and South America.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/politics/joe-biden-vaccine-us-leadership/index.html

well this is refreshing

'Let me be clear: Just as with the 80 million doses we previously announced, the United States is providing these half-(billion) doses with no strings attached," Biden said. "Our vaccine donations don't include pressure for favors or potential concessions. We're doing this to save lives, to end this pandemic. That's it. Period."

If taken with a grain of salt.

 

[EYESAILOR]

I truly believe a large part of the culpability here with the people resisting vaccination lays with our governments and media. They have managed the flow of information and clearly have given us messaging intended to keep us scared and therefore not spreading the virus. This lofty aspiration has largely come to fruition but lots of people have grown to distrust various 'facts' being released and are simply doing what they think is best given the uncertainty in the messaging.

In the US I dont think it was helpful that the vaccine approval dates came so close to the election date. For a period, the vaccine approval and FDA became political topics. it would have been better if both parties had expressed in a bi-partisan way complete confidence in the FDA process for reviewing the vaccine.

 

[NeedAClew]

well this is refreshing

'Let me be clear: Just as with the 80 million doses we previously announced, the United States is providing these half-(billion) doses with no strings attached," Biden said. "Our vaccine donations don't include pressure for favors or potential concessions. We're doing this to save lives, to end this pandemic. That's it. Period."

If taken with a grain of salt.

Well people and countries can feel free not to take the vaccine. They can use Sputnik V. 

Don't worry we aren't sending any to Australia since you're in such good shape. 

 

[ShortForBob]

Well people and countries can feel free not to take the vaccine. They can use Sputnik V. 

Don't worry we aren't sending any to Australia since you're in such good shape. 

I think you missed the point

maybe I should have said it was a refreshing change. (no strings attached or quid pro quos, You may have all the Pfizers but you'll eat crow over Trump for a long long time  )

 

[NeedAClew]

I think you missed the point

maybe I should have said it was a refreshing change. (no strings attached or quid pro quos

No I got your point.

 

[Zonker]

No strings attached = a nice demonstration of how to do soft political power.

As opposed to China's Belt and Road b.s. Soft power done with the intention of taking over critical infrastructure.

 

[NeedAClew]

For all the haters on US for not releasing its stock of AstraZenica to other countries, looking at you, short aussie bobble head, note it was made in same plant that fucked 60  millions of J&J doses that had to be thrown out. Could not ship without checking, are shipping other and better anyway vax 

Read  https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/11/the-fda-reportedly-forces-jj-to-scrap-about-60-million-doses-of-its-covid-vaccine-.html

 

[00seven]

For all the haters on US for not releasing its stock of AstraZenica to other countries, looking at you, short aussie bobble head, note it was made in same plant that fucked 60  millions of J&J doses that had to be thrown out. Could not ship without checking, are shipping other and better anyway vax 

Read  https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/11/the-fda-reportedly-forces-jj-to-scrap-about-60-million-doses-of-its-covid-vaccine-.html

Don't mind Meli. She likes to think all things USA are bad.

 

[ShortForBob]

No strings attached = a nice demonstration of how to do soft political power.

As opposed to China's Belt and Road b.s. Soft power done with the intention of taking over critical infrastructure.

Or Trump withdrawing funding to countries providing abortion services along with family planning or not supporting the USA at the UN.

That's what I was referring to. Refreshing.

 

[ShortForBob]

Don't mind Meli. She likes to think all things USA are bad.

On the contrary, where would we be without Blues. :lol:

 

[NeedAClew]

Sensible piece on breakthrough disease. Note the tiny numbers 0.04%. That's not 4% if the math thing is a problem. 

But still plenty of time for Oz to build the wall and get China to pay for it. A covid case? OMG it's those filthy overseas people!  Skin cancer from no sunscreen for 40 years? Ah, that's our way of life.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-07/napa-county-records-first-fully-vacinated-person-covid-death

 

[Parma]

The only reason it's getting better in the United States is because we have strong leadership!

 

[NeedAClew]

They are testing an oral treatment called Tempol

 https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/potential-oral-treatment-covid-19-identified

 

[TheDragon]

Last post in this thread was at the most recent low point for cases in the USA and many other countries, however, now not only are there third and fourth waves in several other countries, with the UK likely to top their worst case levels of the winter, but case counts in the US have doubled since then. We still have more than half the country vulnerable to infection and this Delta variant surge is being accelerated by the states with the lowest vaccination rates, like Arkansas and Missouri. All these folks who object to lockdowns, masks, social distancing, and bemoan the devastation of the economy and small businesses, are precisely the folk who refuse vaccination and hence delay our recovery from this pandemic. Not to mention risk their own health and for some of them their lives. Can't fix stupid, Darwin will have to do it.

 

[Zonker]

Look kids. Exponential growth:



NY Times today

 

[Steam Flyer]

That cannot be! All the anti-vaxxers and RWNJs were insisting that it's over, that predictions of spread all alarmist bullshit, that nobody really DIES of Covid, that we've reached herd mentality, etc etc.

You mean, they're wrong... again?!?

- DSK

 

[Kate short for Bob]

That cannot be! All the anti-vaxxers and RWNJs were insisting that it's over, that predictions of spread all alarmist bullshit, that nobody really DIES of Covid, that we've reached herd mentality, etc etc.

You mean, they're wrong... again?!?

- DSK

Your're still alive so does that make you special?

 

[00seven]

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Speaking of anti vaxxers....