With Layline and APS closed, who do you mail order from

[Bonjour]

Layline used to have great help for my j22 rigging and upgrading sheets, etc, and I ordered Laser parts from them.

Annapolis performance sailing APSltd used to be similar but always a few dollars more than Layline. And i liked the Layline guys on the phone. Very smart guys.

Who do you mail order from now?

 

[CordRipper]

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Team 1 Newport in Newport: Team One Newport - Sailing and Foul Weather Gear for the Active Sailor (team1newport.com)

 

[Locus]

Anyone have a good source for Marlow rope as well? Used to get it from APS. Local chandlery has some but not all, and often out of stock. Would like to order some and not have to get a whole spool. 

 

[Bitter Gnat]

I always go with VELA Sailing Supply.

Rod Favela and his wife Gisela work hard to make you happy.

 

[Port Wine]

+1 on Vela

 

[12 metre]

Anyone have a good source for Marlow rope as well? Used to get it from APS. Local chandlery has some but not all, and often out of stock. Would like to order some and not have to get a whole spool. 

Rekord Marine up in Vancouver sells pretty much everything Marlow.  They have a web-store as well and advertise Marlow ropes by the foot.  https://victory-products.com/  have a whole range of other boat related stuff such as Jefa and TruDesign.

 

[jimx]

Rod at Vela sailing. They pick up the phone and they will take care of you.

 

[LakeBoy]

Fisheries Supply

Haven't used their rigging services but I did buy splicing tools and tried my hand at it.  

 

[Left Shift]

Fisheries Supply

Haven't used their rigging services but I did buy splicing tools and tried my hand at it.  

Fisheries Supply carries a full range of Marlow, Samson, NE Ropes, Maffioli.  Including many of the high tech lines.  Or they will order it by the spool for you.  Besides, Fisheries operates their brick and mortar store here, which is an invaluable place for us in the PNW.  

Their splicing services are OK, production oriented but maybe not "bespoke" in their detailing.  But not expensive either.  

Get Brion Toss' book if you are getting into splicing.  It's a lot easier now than the old dacron double braid era.  

 

[Locus]

Problem is that Fisheries is OUT of most of the marlow stock and does not know an ETA on when it will be back. Even the Samson is getting hard for them to source. No fault of theirs for sure, but they are out of so much rope its really hit or miss

They also do not carry the full Marlow line and currently in a single color and 2 sizes of each type of rope. 

Yes i can order a spool but that is way too much for my needs. 

Took a look a Vela and am going to put an order in see if they are having the same shipping issues as Fisheries (and many others as well)

 

[George Hackett]

Anyone have a good source for Marlow rope as well? Used to get it from APS. Local chandlery has some but not all, and often out of stock. Would like to order some and not have to get a whole spool. 

Apparently Harken sells Marlow? 

 

[Gouvernail]

We fix boats. Retail wasn't really a significant part of our game until the last couple years. We spent a lot of years hel[ping people figure out what they  needed and where to order it. 

Without APS and Layline, sailors around here bitched long and hard about having to buy stuff from the non-sailors behind the counter at our local West Marine and Auto Supply / sailboat store. So, we decided to fill that void and have been dumping funds into building stock.  It simply amazes me how sparsely populated  a $25,000 wall of spools of sailboat lines looks.  We already had been stocking Awlgrip, resins, glass, carbon fiber, antifoulants, stainless fasteners, sandpapers, buffers and all the stuff a full service boat shop needs.  Over the last few years we have been building up a parts inventory of cleats, shackles, blocks, and stuff like that but $30,000 in  sailboat hardware isn't much of a selection either. 

In general, we like to think we have what our local sailors NEED to sail this weekend, but we do not necessarily have what they really wanted. . No way I can afford the millions in  inventory APS must have had but we have been taking care of the Austin Yacht Club sailors mostly out of our stash and begging our suppliers for next day service on what we don't stock. 

A good example is J-80 spin sheets. Many of the spin sheets in our very active 25 boat fleet are nearing the end of their service lives. I bought a couple spools of line I think might be really nice and our J-80 currently has one brand on starboard and the other brand on port. I made splices at the clew end and built a soft shackle to fasten the sheets to the sail.  Three weekends into it we don't know which sheet we like better but we love the soft shackle set up. It gybes around much easer than the old bowlines in the lines with the covers stripped off.   

It is probably a pain in the ass to deal with us, but at least we listen to what you tell us about your sailing and we won't sell you anything unless we are convinced it is actually what you want / need.   I don't want anybody to find out we sold somebody the wrong damned thing. That would make us look like dummies.

As our shop has been around for forty years and we have parted pout a whole lot of old sailboats, we often have old parts "just like your other one" that every sensible businessman never stocked or threw in the garbage twenty years ago.  We have stuff like a pair of big bronze winches with a square drive sticking up and a ratcheting handle  that we aren't  certain anybody will want someday, but I sure as hell cant just throw away. 

Maybe in the next couple years we will set up a sales website but we are still in the "interview the sailor and help them rig their toys" mode. We have four kinds of Laser main sheet and each one is right for a different reason. I can't just chop a hunk off the spool until I know which one it that right one. 

 

[Rum Runner]

westcoastsailing.com has helped me.

 

[trimfast]

Could always recreate APS in the same location, for lots of dollars. 

https://www.hyattcommercial.com/buildout-inventory/?propertyId=805516-lease

 

[LionessRacing]

We have stuff like a pair of big bronze winches with a square drive sticking up and a ratcheting handle  that we aren't  certain anybody will want someday, but I sure as hell cant just throw away. 

When we finally pull our secondaries and upgrade, do you want another set? Even have the ratcheting handles for them.

 

[dbottles]

The folks at West Coast Sailing told me they purchased a lot of the APS stuff and now sell the stuff APS did. 

 

[Gary Hull]

Mauripro Sailing Has you covered.

 

[Left Shift]

Problem is that Fisheries is OUT of most of the marlow stock and does not know an ETA on when it will be back. Even the Samson is getting hard for them to source. No fault of theirs for sure, but they are out of so much rope its really hit or miss

They also do not carry the full Marlow line and currently in a single color and 2 sizes of each type of rope. 

Yes i can order a spool but that is way too much for my needs. 

Took a look a Vela and am going to put an order in see if they are having the same shipping issues as Fisheries (and many others as well)

Shipping sucks all over the world right now. 

I just had four nearly identical packages sent from the same shipper in Valencia to Seattle.  Two were shipped a month and a half before the other set.  One of the second set beat the last of the first shipment by a week.  The last two of each set came in a day apart.  8 weeks for one shipment, 2 weeks for the other.   The cause?  Huge lack of truck drivers in the US and lack of trans-Atlantic commercial airlines flights. 

My shipping experts say my experience is the new norm.

 

[wpbeardsley]

I've found West Coast Sailing to be very responsive so far for small boat gear / apparel.  Haven't used them for any custom rigging - for that I've been working with New England Yacht Rigging for Viper 640 standing and running rigging.