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When asked why I thought sailing was such a cool sport I always used to answer ‘The right kind of people play our sport’’.

I then went on to say it is nothing about money, I am hardly a millionaire myself, but it was about the attitude to fair play and helping each other. Perhaps something to do about the lore of the sea.

Back when I was young in sailing, rules being broken in high profile events were big news, and relatively rare. The I’Punkt affair being notable and when an Enterprise dinghy appeared at an early 70’s Enterprise Europeans at the Royal Tay Yacht Club in Scotland with a boat that you could fit your fist between the hull and measurement template at station 2, it went all the way to the IYRU (with the trophy being withheld if I remember correctly) and led to the nicknames Benterprise and Slenderprise although doubtful if many readers are young enough to remember those issues.

Perhaps I watch what is happening in the upper echelons of our sport more than I used to but I am not alone and have recently challenged by people I know with “You told me this was an honourable sport so why are people cheating”  and I have to start to agree with them and that disappoints me.

It is very hard to ignore the lead in king posts, the round the world racers mousing their halyards, sailing with nav lights switched off at night, leaving behind a crew member in the light at multi race regattas or the multitude of other infractions one sees or hears about.

And some of the breaches are clearly well thought out and pre-planned. Deliberate is the word I think I am looking for.

At one Laser Regatta, at least one competitor had tied the dead end of their mainsheet to the toe-straps and was gently flicking his feet all the way round the course causing an almost continuous and almost inconspicuous flick to the 4thcorner of the mainsail.

He was undone when a judge came alongside and took a snapshot of the arrangement. Suffice to say that if there was no on the water judge they would have got away with it.

I have even had a world champion boasting to me he won because he was able to ooch better than others. To give him credit when he described his actions it was more like legal kinetics than illegal body movements but the fact he felt it was no problem to say he was ooching was concerning.

Even coaches seem willing to stretch the rules with their athletes, or perhaps don’t have the fullest knowledge of the rules themselves. I remember one discussion where a coach felt a penalty could be done at the competitor’s convenience rather than “as soon after the incident as possible”. Lord help us.

The problem is perhaps not new but does seem to be on the increase to such an extent that World Sailing even produced a manual on the subject “Misconduct Guidance”. If misconduct wasn’t such an issue, why have a manual?

We are all aware that, in many parts of the world, numbers in our sport are not growing as we would like, in fact in some parts of the world they are apparently falling to the extent that books have been written on the subject (very good books like ‘Saving Sailing’ for example) and if the playing field is not seen to be fair not only may it chase people from our sport but also prevent newcomers entering in the first place.

And it is not just competitors that are culpable. I have been in ‘the room’ where the Chairman (an IJ) didn’t declare the protestee was an associate and even forcefully told one of the witnesses to shut up. Or being on the water with an IJ and spotting a competitor ooching so obviously it would have made a perfect “How to” video. Instead of opening the throttle and awarding a penalty they dropped the engine to ‘idle’ to widen the distance. (The competitor was a fellow national of the judge). The very next day when with a judge of a different nationality I highlighted the same competitor doing exactly the same thing. Result? Throttle up and a 720 penalty. In fact had the other judge done the right thing the day before then that penalty should have been a DSQ or even a DNE. Smelly!

An extreme example perhaps, was the awarding of redress by an (incompetent or complicit?) race officer after a competitor claimed an on the water judge (who the SI’s stated their decision was final) made a wrong decision. No paperwork, no protest committee, a unilateral decision by the Race officer to award 5 point redress even though the GPS trace showed the competitor’s penalty turn cost zero places. The upshot was over 20 rules and sub rules broken and the third place prize of a 23 foot Sportboat going to a fellow national of the race officer. Attempts to protest these actions were blanked all the way up to the CEO of the company which organised the event.

So what’s the reason? Frankly, I don’t know. Perhaps it is the additional money that has crept into our sport, where frequently the sailor’s income level, either at a particular event or potential  in the future is based on results. Perhaps I was just blind to it (I love this sport) and am noticing it more these days with my involvement in writing and officiating, either way it is not a good look.  

Of course, on the high side, these occurrences are not everyday. If they were they wouldn’t be noteworthy but they still dishonor our sport and I haven’t even got started on electronic devices working or not working.

So what’s the solution?

Our sport may not be unique  in being self policing. I have seen golfers and snooker players calling fouls on themselves but the number of sports that DON’T have an official, whether called a judge, an umpire or a referee is pretty small.

Could you imagine the mayhem that would exist on a soccer pitch with no referee? That sport has even gone to ‘goal line’ technology and a 4th official for video replay – let’s hope our sport never has to extend to those sorts of measures, I doubt if we could even afford it. And soccer isn’t unique, quite the opposite.

I do notice that the number of regattas that have “on the water judging” with the “judges decision is final” written into the sailing instructions appears to be on the increase but the wrong type of official is usually used and it shouldn’t (in my opinion) even be judging.

There are now only around 60 – yes, I haven’t missed a zero – only 60 people who are qualified as both International Judge (IJ) and International Umpire (IU) in the whole world. And using a judge to officiate when the skills of an umpire are what is required is rather like someone used to sitting on the bench of a county court doing duty as a traffic cop.

I am not doubting the rules knowledge of judges, far from it but the additional required skills of boat driving, positioning and wake avoidance are not something that a judge practices regularly along with the sometimes lack of awareness of the concept of “last known point of certainty”. Additionally, just as a county court judge lacks the experience to ‘smell something going down’ where a street cop would then the same applies to the relative skill sets of a sailing judge or umpire.

Having performed the roles of both umpire on the water and judge in the protest room I am quite aware that while there is significant overlap in terms of knowledge required, however there is somewhat less overlap with the practical skills.

Sometimes as an on the water ‘judge’, just being there keeps people honest and at a number of regattas it has been noticeable that the officials are quite busy on day 1, or even just race 1 but by the time day 2 dawns they are just trundling round with the fleet with their flags lying in the bottom of the RIB and their whistles virtually unblown.

Would we ever have to go to the extent of having actual ‘referees’? I for one certainly hope not but the reliance on someone protesting and more worrying, those who don’t sometimes being more pilloried than the offender (real or supposed) hardly benefits anyone except perhaps the trolls who sometimes populate internet chat rooms.

We are one fifth of the way into the 21st Century and our sport still largely depends on an honour code that existed at the beginning of the last century.

I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater but at the very least, in my view, that minority which disrespects our sport by knowingly NOT following ALL the rules needs to be brought to heel in a firm and uncompromising manner.

Good policing prevents crime, perhaps the time has come to ramp up those who are on the water just to ensure a fairer, more level, field of prey.

Food for thought.

SS

 

mcexley001

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Not sure I get the "field of prey" comment, but you're absolutely correct about the need to consistently enforce the rules.  On our crew, we use the rules to avoid conflict and damage, not to win.  Those who use the rules as weapons to win have it all wrong.  Paul Elvstrom had it right.

 

SloopJonB

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One word.

Money.

Once the corporations got involved this was certain to happen. Started at the top levels and filtered down. I remember the Williwaw scandal at SORC in the early 80's - that was headline news but I have my doubts it would raise more than a mention today. We had a prominent sportsmanship scandal locally back then - at PITCH in the late 70's or 80's. Two overly competitive crews got into a bar brawl - there might have been some vandalism involved as well - memory is a bit hazy on that.

There were some fairly stiff penalties - at least one skipper (Knightmare) got a long ban.

I think the best way to try to correct it is lifetime bans in the case of blatant cheating. Of course "blatant" is a judgement call but that's what juries are for.

I always liked Smokey Yunicks attitude towards cheating VS creatively utilizing the rule book.

"If the rules don't say I can't do it then I have to assume I can".

 
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12 metre

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While quite a few kinetics are banned, I wonder why they are banned at all?  Kind of adds a bit of additional athleticism to the sport, and if there is a more efficient way of utilizing the wind and sails to propel a boat, why should it be banned?

Besides kinetics can be quite subjective in nature as described in the OP, so why bother trying to enforce such things?  Any Olympic sport that involves judging rather than measuring inevitably leads to corruption  (i.e. figure skating, diving, aerobatics of all forms)

 

Snaggletooth

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I always liked Smokey Yunicks attitude towards cheating VS creatively utilizing the rule book.

"If the rules don't say I can't do it then I have to assume I can".
SY wase verrey funney fellowe....           :)         

 

Looper

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As a Laser sailor i'm having trouble wrapping my head around how this guy was able to tie the end of the sheet around the hiking strap as a means to gain any performance advantage - upwind or downwind.

Can someone with knowledge on this issue enlighten me?

 

Maxx Baqustae

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One word.

Money.

Once the corporations got involved this was certain to happen. Started at the top levels and filtered down. I remember the Williwaw scandal at SORC in the early 80's - that was headline news but I have my doubts it would raise more than a mention today. We had a prominent sportsmanship scandal locally back then - at PITCH in the late 70's or 80's. Two overly competitive crews got into a bar brawl - there might have been some vandalism involved as well - memory is a bit hazy on that.

There were some fairly stiff penalties - at least one skipper (Knightmare) got a long ban.

I think the best way to try to correct it is lifetime bans in the case of blatant cheating. Of course "blatant" is a judgement call but that's what juries are for.

I always liked Smokey Yunicks attitude towards cheating VS creatively utilizing the rule book.

"If the rules don't say I can't do it then I have to assume I can".
Yup. I was there for that PITCH regatta. Not involved at all and I think it was '79. It was between Knightmare and Made in Japan. I was pretty ugly and Made in Japan had a huge rectangle hole in their Genoa when putting up at the start. Yup, very testosterone-fueled bullshit. 

A guy in our venue there was an altercation mark rounding. The offending skipper actual boarded the other boat and actually punched/assaulted him. He was tossed for 3 years and I thought he should have banned for life. There is no call for that - ever. But he did it again years later. Still a noisy drunk yelling at people on the race course. His club should have tossed him then. But oh no - he was still at it. He modified his boat with sugar scoop of about 18in. Lengthed the boom for a foot or so, oversized genoa and spinnaker too. Not declaring any of it. He'd been cheating like that for years. A friend of mine was the club PHRF handicapper and had a hard time dealing with him. Saying doesn't matter or it didn't make any difference etc, etc, etc. My friend finally had enough as he was in the same club so they had to get another local handicapper to deal with him. They finally got the proper measurements and changed the PHRF numbers where they should be. I believe he got tossed again for that. But he ended up racing again and surprise: The boat/numbers weren't as good anymore. He tried to enter a major event and been told not to show up. He did anyway. Got in the way at the start being rude, swearing, belligerent, get out my way etc. I don't know if he was banned again but he is not ever welcome in any of our events. 

There is absolutely call for that behavior whatsoever and how many skippers and crews walked away from the sport with clowns like that? It's just a fucking hobby at best!   

 

SailBlueH2O

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As a Laser sailor i'm having trouble wrapping my head around how this guy was able to tie the end of the sheet around the hiking strap as a means to gain any performance advantage - upwind or downwind.

Can someone with knowledge on this issue enlighten me?
plucking the taught line...pumping the main

 
As a Laser sailor i'm having trouble wrapping my head around how this guy was able to tie the end of the sheet around the hiking strap as a means to gain any performance advantage - upwind or downwind.

Can someone with knowledge on this issue enlighten me?



II The tail of the mainsheet may also be knotted or tied to either the base of the mainsheet block, the hiking strap, the hiking strap support line, or the hiking strap shock cord. This option, if used, satisfies the knotting requirement in 3(c)i.



 

Moonduster

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With all due respect, I wouldn't look to China for policy on how to run a fair, unbiased, self-policing sport.

 

Fiji Bitter

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 one sheet of very cheap toilet paper per hour on the stern light....bye now.
You must have been shitting a lot on the transom, to come up with that one. (pun int.)

What if you have a tricolor light, that would be a long way to go for a dump!

(Yes, a rheostat will do the job, or a helicopter microwave upload I guess.)

 

P_Wop

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I agree in general with all of this.  Ethics in our sport have changed radically since I was a nipper, and not generally for the better.

In the days before 360s and 720s, when you infringed you hoisted an ensign and went home.  Just that simple.  There are several day-racing classes in the UK South Coast where that is still the normal practice.  I'm not meaning to be a "Colonel Blimp" but this process taught you bloody quickly to learn the rules and follow them.  

Offshore was the same.  There were a few cases of light-air navlight-less motoring in a dark night in the English Channel, but funnily enough those boats never won, or even did very well at all.  Some sort of contamination?

 

shanghaisailor

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With all due respect, I wouldn't look to China for policy on how to run a fair, unbiased, self-policing sport.
Now that sir is a racist statement. And for the record I am from Scotland, born north of the Highland Line.

Also for the record the most blatant piece of cheating I ever saw was in a white sail class over 25 years ago (NOT in China - you think I've only sailed here?). I was racing with just my daughter who was about 10 at the time and the boat we had to beat ran aground, used their motor to come off and for good measure made up the lost time by motoring some way down the course. It meant instead of a regatta win I came second. Didn't matter I had plenty of glassware on the shelf. My mate, instead of coming 2nd was third - same thing applied to him but the young woman who SHOULD have come third and would have picked up her first trophy got nothing. The offender was approached in the bar and invited to retire. He said OK but then didn't which wasn't found out until after the protest time limit. So he was a liar as well as a cheat. The RO wouldn't accept a late protest although we found out later they should have according to the then RRS.

The story went round the clubhouse like wildfire and at the prizegiving you could have heard a pin drop when he went to collect his trophy except one shout from the back of those gathered "Not bad for a fucking motor boat". He (the cheater) was ostracised and some time later put his boat up for sale. 

My mate (he who should have been second) was strolling past it one day and the owner asked if he was interested. My mate's response was classic "Not really, but I hear it has a good engine though" Then the penny clicked - for everything else there is Mastercard!

I agree in general with all of this.  Ethics in our sport have changed radically since I was a nipper, and not generally for the better.

In the days before 360s and 720s, when you infringed you hoisted an ensign and went home.  Just that simple.  There are several day-racing classes in the UK South Coast where that is still the normal practice.  I'm not meaning to be a "Colonel Blimp" but this process taught you bloody quickly to learn the rules and follow them.  

Offshore was the same.  There were a few cases of light-air navlight-less motoring in a dark night in the English Channel, but funnily enough those boats never won, or even did very well at all.  Some sort of contamination?
I've seen that myself. Off the Northumberland coast, Hunter's Moon, less wind than a gnat's fart, oily sea, the distant sound of an auxillary diesel and a masthead light travelling far too fast for the conditions. A quick "hello" on the VHF and all went quiet and the masthead light slowed to the correct speed. Never found out exactly who it was but I have a pretty good idea.

Thing about cheating is every time you look at the trophy you know you DIDN'T REALLY win it.

 
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